DUST Search - [Feedback] Logistics Dropships aren't really worth it.

General Funguy wrote:

EVICER wrote:

General Funguy wrote:

I have been saving SP for days just to be able to upgrade to the Logistics Dropship, namely the Prometheus. Upon accruing enough points and blowing a fair chunk of ISK, I realize that it has significantly less PG & CPU than the Grimsnes and even the Gorgon. Now I realize that is has a built in CRU, which I am assuming is why it has less fitting capacity. But after doing the math I've realized that these numbers have been lowered past the cost of a CRU. So, while it may be true that you are getting an an extra 200HP on your armor and an extra High Power Slot, You really can't use it for much.

It's really better to just use the standard ships since you have more fitting capacity AFTER equiping the Militia CRU than you start with when you use the Logistics Ship. True, you don't get the extra High Power slot, but you CAN equip better modules.

I don't know if this is the case with the Caldari ships, and I don't care to waste more SP finding out.

So uh, can I have my 1,000,000+ SP back? I would have been 100x better off spending that on a Marauder. Or maybe you could just not nerf the PG and CPU so much.

Man thanks for the thread...I started down this path but the more I look at it the less and less appealing it gets.I thought the mobil cru would kinda be a bonus but if the trade off is relatively the same.I was looking at that the last time I was playing and was thinking about that but hadnt broken it down mathematically to see if it was worth it....ouch bro

Yeah, I just looked at it again. I can equip the Grimsnes with a Militia CRU, a Converse Shield Booster, 2 ST-1 Missile launchers, a Polarized Armor Regenerator, Energized Nanite Plating, and 60mm Nanofibre Plates, if I use the Powergrid Expansion Unit 1. In order to equip the EXACT SAME modules (without the Militia CRU of course) on the Prometheus, I have to use a Type-G Powergrid Expansion System(which costs alot more), AND THAT'S IF I LEAVE ONE OF THE HIGH POWER SLOTS BLANK!

I really hope a DEV sees this and chimes in at some point, because I feel like I just got screwed. I think someone should have at least bought me dinner first.

[EDIT] This setup can be done on the Standard Dropship (Grimsnes) for FAR cheaper and you only lose 200 armor HP!


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Longshot Ravenwood Algintal Core Gallente Federation 680	Posted - 2012.07.12 04:10:00 - [1] - Quote General Funguy wrote: EVICER wrote: General Funguy wrote: I have been saving SP for days just to be able to upgrade to the Logistics Dropship, namely the Prometheus. Upon accruing enough points and blowing a fair chunk of ISK, I realize that it has significantly less PG & CPU than the Grimsnes and even the Gorgon. Now I realize that is has a built in CRU, which I am assuming is why it has less fitting capacity. But after doing the math I've realized that these numbers have been lowered past the cost of a CRU. So, while it may be true that you are getting an an extra 200HP on your armor and an extra High Power Slot, You really can't use it for much. It's really better to just use the standard ships since you have more fitting capacity AFTER equiping the Militia CRU than you start with when you use the Logistics Ship. True, you don't get the extra High Power slot, but you CAN equip better modules. I don't know if this is the case with the Caldari ships, and I don't care to waste more SP finding out. So uh, can I have my 1,000,000+ SP back? I would have been 100x better off spending that on a Marauder. Or maybe you could just not nerf the PG and CPU so much. Man thanks for the thread...I started down this path but the more I look at it the less and less appealing it gets.I thought the mobil cru would kinda be a bonus but if the trade off is relatively the same.I was looking at that the last time I was playing and was thinking about that but hadnt broken it down mathematically to see if it was worth it....ouch bro Yeah, I just looked at it again. I can equip the Grimsnes with a Militia CRU, a Converse Shield Booster, 2 ST-1 Missile launchers, a Polarized Armor Regenerator, Energized Nanite Plating, and 60mm Nanofibre Plates, if I use the Powergrid Expansion Unit 1. In order to equip the EXACT SAME modules (without the Militia CRU of course) on the Prometheus, I have to use a Type-G Powergrid Expansion System(which costs alot more), AND THAT'S IF I LEAVE ONE OF THE HIGH POWER SLOTS BLANK! I really hope a DEV sees this and chimes in at some point, because I feel like I just got screwed. I think someone should have at least bought me dinner first. [EDIT] This setup can be done on the Standard Dropship (Grimsnes) for FAR cheaper and you only lose 200 armor HP! Does it have any other role bonuses you may have overlooked or differences in speed/mobility?
Longshot Ravenwood Algintal Core Gallente Federation 680	Posted - 2012.07.12 04:26:00 - [2] - Quote General Funguy wrote: Longshot Ravenwood wrote: Does it have any other role bonuses you may have overlooked or differences in speed/mobility? Not according to the stats. The only differences I can see are far less PG&CPU than the standard ships (even less than the militia ship), +200 Armor HP, and supposedly it has a built in Mobile CRU. And really, no amount of extra speed is going to help when it comes to swarm missiles. Especially protos, considering you get less fitting capability and only 200 more HP. Even if it were used to provide support for ground vehicles, there isn't enough power to easily use remote repair units, and it would be a sitting duck for swarms. Really, for the SP cost and the added ISK cost of the ship, the Logistics dropships should be just as feared on the battlefield as a Sagaris. Id be willing to pay more just to have better fittings. I don't know what they were thinking when they decided to nerf the crap out of this thing. Weak. Maybe they'll get some specific modules that are class specific.